he didn't pay the right person off in the government. of course, government denies that completely and says this is a nation of law. he will be treated with all the proper respect and with the right authority. he does not have to be on the run. >> i know this was a clandestine meeting. very difficult to secure. this is a man who eccentric is a fair word. i know he was in disguise. so tell me how you got it and what he looked like. >> we're still sort of emerging from this bizarre bubble we were immersed in for the last couple of hours trying to arrange this, and this has been days in the making. we had to take multiple vehicles. there were people we were picked up by. we had passwords, code words. everything out of an old james bond film. you switch vehicles, get another vehicle, u-turns clearly designed to keep us confused and then the meeting spot, we don't really know where it was, but when we got inside, we watched this old man sort of creep past and i said that is john mcafee. and it was because once we get into this room where we'r